Sunday, November 03, 2013

Naens is right; it's time for "Clone Assassin" Spoiler Town

If you have comments, questions, or concerns regarding the latest Harris adventure, this is your chance to vent... within the realm of civility.  I will try to respond.

148 comments:

naens said...

So, how exactly were the reprogrammed clones able to escape from, and fight against the Unified Authority? Well, I suppose we'll have to find Tasman first, but its still eating at me. Also, I thought of a possible way the EME could survive... the EME could become like the UN, and resuscitate old earth nations... perhaps enforcing the one rule that they can't rejoin the U.A.

Steven L. Kent said...

Oh, Naens, my friend, Book 10 is going top be brutal... BRUTAL! The EME is about to have a tougher time than the Unifieds did in the beginning of Elite.

How did the "Repro-men" survive? Remember, they never landed on Mars. They were in their ship, saw the EME destroy the self-broadcaster, and backed away.

JenMo said...

When Harris wakes up from his coma, why does the gangster just eke him go, instead of waiting for confirmation that Freeman succeeded? Was it because Hunter was parked outside the city in force? Or just to gain good will with Wayson?

Steven L. Kent said...

Pugh hadn't counted on Ritz coming in force. He thought he could send Freeman and if things didn't work out, well, that was just between him and Freeman. When Freeman disappeared and Pugh found the U.A. Marines camped outside him berg, that changed everything.

naens said...

But how were the repromen able to form their own faction? or was it just that since the U.A couldn't communicate they were functioning on their own? I am now pumped for book 10.

naens said...

Also one minor thing, Harris mentions that the U.A legal system is still intact under the EME, which is fine, but then mentions the house and senate still exist as well. With Earth the only planet left, Teranea (hope I spelled that right) notwithstanding, how would the house and senate work?

Steven L. Kent said...

The way I envisioned it, the U.A. used the spy ship to transfer them back to Earth, then sent them down to the Cousteau city, where they devolved.

Steven L. Kent said...

Great question. Remember, the U.A. lost all of its territories back before Clone Elite. The changes in government organizations would have happened then, altering everything so that the government represented Earth and New Copenhagen interests instead of galactic ones. The point is that the EME is trying to be as non-obtrusive as possible.

JenMo said...

Why did the Repromen want to kill (capture?) Harris? Did they know the UA were trying something at that same time?

naens said...

Some classic redistricting then. Well it seems the EME is doing everything it can.

Steven L. Kent said...

Precisely, politics at its best.

Steven L. Kent said...

The goal was absolutely to kill. Because of the failed reprogramming, they were possessed of an insane logic. The Unifieds were their enemies because they had reprogrammed them--which led to internal torture, but Harris was now programmed into them as the enemy as well, and they needed to kill him.

Mike said...

This was a good refresher to read. I have read all the books and eagerly await another but it has been so long since I read them that I feel like I need a review of the history. Maybe a brief historical synopsis with key points inside the jacket would be helpful to new readers as well as franchise veterans like myself to both acquaint and re-acquaint the reader. Patiently waiting... ;) Also, took your review to heart, the wife and I watched 'the way way back' and were very pleased we did. If I think about the movie the next day it scores well in my book.
Mike (Sara Evans' brother)

naens said...

How did they not die being aware of their reprogramming?

Steven L. Kent said...

Mike! I'm glad you liked the movie... and especially the book.

Steven L. Kent said...

Reprogramming changes everything. They still have the gland, that's hardware, but the programming is gone--like having a video card in your PC but no drivers to access it.

naens said...

So the gland was reprogrammed to kill them if they fell back into EME hands, but they could live knowing they were clones?

Steven L. Kent said...

Now we are getting into Book 10 territory, but... the gland was not programmed at all at that point. W
when the clones stressed past a certain point, it released.

naens said...

Well, that's a serious hole in the Unified's plans... I now have a vague idea of a major plot twist in book 10.

naens said...

Well, that's a serious hole in the Unified's plans... I now have a vague idea of a major plot twist in book 10.

Steven L. Kent said...

In book 10, they won't need 'em. Book 110 really is an apocalypse.

Steven L. Kent said...

It's also the final book in the series, no point holding anything, anything back.

JenMo said...

I'm a little terrified for book 10. Steven you're bloodthirsty enough with the gloves on!

When the Repromen all death reflexed, was it a choice?

naens said...

Damn, that makes me really excited, sad, and proud. Any chance of other books/stories in the same universe?

emmitt jackson said...

hi, found the third book at a yard sale and read it thu,enjoyed it very much then went and bought2,4&5.found vol 1 the next day, wonderful storys.now iam not a sci fi reader,more into us marine lore,found the clone harris to be a mixed up,confused marine that thinks like natural born marine.pretty dam human to me, now if i can find the last two books ill be a happy man.great job mr kent' semper fi 68/72

emmitt jackson said...

great books mr kent, i found vol 3 at a yard sale and read it thru,not being much on sci fi i didnt think i would like it however' i went out and found ,2,4& 5,then vol 1 the next day.now if i can find the last two, marine clone harris is a confused angry clone whos had a nuff, much more real then the real natural borns are,cant wait to read more semper fi 68/72

Steven L. Kent said...

Jenmo, again, Book 10 territory, but, no. Without programming to govern it, the gland can provide a death reflex as a result of... oops, no more spoilers.

Steven L. Kent said...

I think Wayson would need to grow inn popularity for anything beyond Book 10, Naens, but thank you. He has a small and loyal base of friends.

Steven L. Kent said...

Thank you, Mr. Jackson. It sounds like I am speaking with a true son of the Corps.

naens said...

Maybe if you just found the right upcoming Hollywood producer... Anyway I think Jenmo's question can be answered by the clones stressing because of surrendering to EME... thus causing a mass death reflex. Also, will we finally get to find out what happened on Terranea? I have a nasty suspicion that they were all reprogrammed and the civilians massacred.

Steven L. Kent said...

Capture by allies now deemed enemies does indeed signal death, but more will be explained in Book 10... and, yes, look to hear a bit more about Terraneau.

naens said...

Do I get denial/confirmation on my prediction? I gots to know.

Steven L. Kent said...

Delayed gratification, my friend. You shall know in just under a year.

naens said...

I'm taking that as a tentative yes... and a major cause of the doomsday scenario.

Steven L. Kent said...

Don't assume, Naens. You know what they say happens when you assume.

JenMo said...

Does this mean ABCs? You know I love those little guys!

naens said...

Sometimes, one has to assume.

Redcell said...

Just finished Assassin and I have a few bones to pick with you (all in good fun)...

I'd like to start by saying this is the first in the series I've actually read. Books 1 through 8 I've enjoyed (most thoroughly) by listening to the Graphic Audio adaptations which were very well done IMHO. I'm on my 4th time through listening to that series and couldn't wait for the February release of Assassin because I had to know what became of the characters I've come to love and hate.

This brings me to my picking of bones. You did a classic character death sandwich on me with a bad piece of filler in there. Allow me to explain...

First, right out of the cannon, you kill off Cutter and I was liking how his character had evolved into his position. But starting off a book with a bang is a concept I completely get and was willing to ante that up as entree to the e-ticket ride I hoped this book to be. That's one slice of bread.

The other side of that sandwich was where you allow us to get to know Ritz so much more since the invasion of Mars and then total suckage; he gets taken out by that bleep of a headcase at the end. I was really frustrated with that so good job on pulling the rug out from under me.

That brings me to the bad filler; Nailor the jailer. The fact that his death was so bland was a letdown of gargantuan proportions. I had so many thoughts (homicidal fantasies???) of what Harris would do with that SOB when he got his hands on him only to get one in the neck and head. Yawn. Ok, the way you had Harris process that afterward has me thinking you explained it (i.e. empty feelings, almost apathetic) and that you did that on purpose. LOL!

So there's the sandwich and, man, was it bitter but I couldn't stop eating. Darn you!!

But seriously, thank you for taking me on yet another great ride. I love sci-fi military stories and your Clone universe has really been a lot of fun.

Continued success!

Amer Elali said...

i know what they say about assuming and man this book is something. only thing i got is why is watson so naive and come on man did you have to kill ritz why do you keep killing of likable characters your getting rid of all the friends that harris has or had i guess.

Steven L. Kent said...

The ABCs would be on New Copenhagen.

Steven L. Kent said...

And speck you late.

Steven L. Kent said...

Thank you, Redcell. True confession, the death of Nailer "the jailer" was even more bland when I first submitted it to Ace. The lovely and talented Anne of Ace called me back and asked, "Have you lost your mind?" So, I improved it.

I think we all agree, however, that Sunny MUST DIE IN AGONY! She may not, by the way. With a title like Apocalypse, Book 10 does not promise happiness and warm fizzies.

Steven L. Kent said...

Amer, as I wrote the book, I originally planned to kill MacAvoy off and keep Ritz alive and humming, but MacAvoy proved so potent, so I sacrificed one of my favorite, favorite characters.

JenMo said...

Right right. I'm awful with place names. Is Harris very lonely? Or does he not desensitized to loss?

Steven L. Kent said...

He would be lonely, maybe, but he has a girlfriend to keep him company--Sunny.

Yes, I think Harris is a solitary, lonely figure. In one or two of the books, as I recall, he comments about ghosts--generally as he is falling asleep or succumbing to unconsciousness by some other form.

Redcell said...

He always has his bibles, right? ;-)

naens said...

I thought Harris realized Sunny was a snitch when he remarked that it couldn't be a coincidence that out of all the apartments the Unifieds were in hers. Also, speaking of New Copenhagen, will it play a role in the ensuing apocalypse?

Steven L. Kent said...

Sadly, Harris generally gives Sunny the benefit of the doubt... and in this case, maybe rightfully so. Once the action started, he discovered the the Unifieds had moved into many, many apartments.

No decision about New Copenhagen, but Terraneau is in.

naens said...

Surely we can't just leave the Japanese and the seals forgotten on a molten rock, now can we?

Steven L. Kent said...

I would love to revisit them someday.

Amer Elali said...

have to say when i was reading the book and harris kept calling his battalion the first of the first and saying my men i kept imagining star wars and vaders storm troopers also i liked seeing things from freemen's perspective i believe this is the first time we have a look at how freeman does things do we get more of that in book 10

Steven L. Kent said...

I will simply say that Ray Freeman does indeed play a role in Book 10.

Aaron Spuler said...

Have to say that you pulled a 'Dan Abnett' with killing off Ritz. I was fuming mad when he died at the end. But, that means that you got me to care for the character. Pulling a 'Dan Abnett' is a high compliment, my friend.

Aaron Spuler said...

Have to say that you pulled a 'Dan Abnett' with killing off Ritz. I was fuming mad when he died at the end. But, that means that you got me to care for the character. Pulling a 'Dan Abnett' is a high compliment, my friend.

Aaron Spuler said...

Have to say that you pulled a 'Dan Abnett' with killing off Ritz. I was fuming mad when he died at the end. But, that means that you got me to care for the character. Pulling a 'Dan Abnett' is a high compliment, my friend.

Steven L. Kent said...

Have not heard from the real Hunter. I hope he's not pissed.

Amer Elali said...

found it interesting that the idea that harris came up with on terraneau shows up twice in the book once by freeman in the mine and again by macavoy in the mall. its like that saying if it works dont fix it, burying the shielded unifeds seems to be the best way to take care of them.

Steven L. Kent said...

What else can you do with 'em. That said, MacAvoy made an art out of it.

naens said...

Speaking of MacAvoy, I wanted to ask you if he is in any way based off Patton.

Steven L. Kent said...

I really don't know where he came from. He was merely another idiot upper officer in the first draft, then he started winning battles based on his straightforward strategy, and then I started really liking him and he changed quite a bit over the next few drafts.

naens said...

Every scene with him reminded me of Patton, from the cigars to the way he berated his men.

Steven L. Kent said...

The berating came courtesy of General Norman Schwarzkopf.

naens said...

So its kinda died down around here... but a thought just occurred to me. How would the seal clones react to news of the EME, being as they are still operating on orders from the U.A?

Steven L. Kent said...

Great question. I don't know.

naens said...

Maybe they'd use the fact that the brass of the EME, or at least the initial brass of the EME, were put in charge by the U.A through field promotions, unless they have no problem fighting against the U.A.

Amer Elali said...

I dont think they are following any orders anymore because they were ordered to go with the Japanese fleet to find the aliens and since the aliens are gone now the seals are just stuck on New Copenhagen with the other Japanese. i would think they would join in with the EME because they are clones but at the moment it seems everyone has forgotten about them.

Steven L. Kent said...

The SEALs have autonomy of thought.

JenMo said...

Right but aren't they hyper programmed? Liberators being the opposite end of clone programming from the SEALs. Those guys would be super scary reprogrammed.

naens said...

And there we go, just include a little paragraph in the book about the logic of their decision. :D I just saw Ender's Game with a few friends, and it was great, if a tad condensed. Of course the book is better, but still a very good film.

Steven L. Kent said...

The SEALs aren't programmed, their governed by a hyper-inferiority complex. They have great autonomy, but their too self-conscious to use it.

Steven L. Kent said...

The kid who played Bonzo Madrid stole the show. Good movie, not great, but very, very solid.

Amer Elali said...

Harris also had free thought and wasn't under much programming but he had the can commit suicide thing going on until now so even the seal clones can be reprogrammed right for being inferior to thinking they are the more superior clones or something alone those line all I am saying is whoever gave them the inferiority programming was a dick they deserved better also would Tasman have anything to do with the programming for that or was he more for the general clones

Steven L. Kent said...

Tasman had nothing to do with the SEALs. The man in charge for that one, though, obviously he had little to do with the science, was Admiral Che Huang.

Amer Elali said...

i guess that explains where the inferiority complex/programming came from.

Steven L. Kent said...

I never considered the inferiority complex to be a by-product of programming. I always considered it to have been caused by their appearance and their training.

naens said...

Hmm... well it always appeared to be a core part of their psyche... And overall I agree with your thoughts on Ender's Game, decent movie, solid plot, even with the minor variations.

Steven L. Kent said...

No Rose "the Nose," but one really B.A. Bonzo--who they went out of their way to pronounce Banzo, despite the specificity in the book.

naens said...

That did amuse me.

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Warsol Ender said...

Ok so I had re-read clone republic and this is sort of bothering me but when Harris meet the last of the liberators they said by the time they found Harris he was with kylber and had killed three of the five he had created so then wouldn't that mean a possible second liberator that had some how lived? Or are saving that for book 10 which by the way I am sad to hear it's ending because I always sort of hoped that at the end the Clone empire had recreated it self with new clones of both sexes and natural borns working together like natural borns were had a senate while the clones became like the liner committee but less corrupt and your series has always interested me like I could play a game like this also I felt a little disappointed Nailor and Harris didn't have a longer fight I sort of wished he broke both of Nailor's legs making him fear Harris sort of like Nailor's own fantasy of being perfect ended and harris just ends it with a smile sort of a throw back from clone Elite where Harris had missed his chance to enjoy his kill would have been perfect to me at least if it ended like that.
Also what happened to the shielding armor I mean it would have been useful in clone sedation but why didn't the EME try modifying them? Or will it make a comeback in book 10?

Warsol Ender said...

Also will you keep writing scifi like a new series not necessarily scifi military but others in that genre? Also on a side note what was your thought on Enders Game the theatrical release personally I felt that the movie should not have been made rather a television series on par with game of thrones would have been a better idea what are your thoughts on that? And back to the main point I always wondered but out of 180 worlds shouldn't there be like more people alive? I mean the avatari are gone so shouldn't worlds that were untouched by the U.A be ok when the Seal's destroyed there home world because essentially there would be nothing processing them same on other worlds the E.M.E didn't rescue? Also I get that Harris wouldn't want to create Clones himself but why wouldn't others want that? And if they had the archives on how to build a broadcast network why wasn't that a priority at all?

Steven L. Kent said...

Hello, Warsol.

Hmmm, I would need to go back, but it was my intention to keep Harris as the last of the Liberators. No surprise Liberators in Apocalypse, I promise.

Now, about how things turn out for the Clone Empire, I don't think I have revealed anything except that Book 10 will BRUTAL.

Steven L. Kent said...

Warsol, a passle of excellent questions. First to Ender's Game. I really enjoyed the movie. It wasn't perfect. I would give it a B+, but I would also say that trying to condense an epic read like Ender's Game into a movie is nearly impossible. What do you keep in? What do you leave out? How do you show that it has taken years instead of months?

I think they made sacrifices in creating this movie, and I deeply admire the choices that they made. I loved the casting, and the special effects were spectacular.

To your other questions. It never really occurred to me that the SEALs and the Japanese could have gone to an unused planet, but if they had, they would have found it sleeved. The Avatari sleeved and destroyed usable planets, right? They went after the kinds of worlds that humans needed as well--the same distance from a productive star. That was the U.A.'s top requirement for colonizing planets.

Now, about clones and broadcast technology. In Tom Hanks's From the Earth to the Moon documentary, a NASA engineer made the statement that if we wanted to go to the moon today, we could not do it as quickly as they did back in the 1960s. Remember, John Kennedy said he wanted to land on the moon in 1961. Eight years later, we accomplished the feat.

Sometimes having the blueprint isin't enough. Harris's military engineers are great at what they do, but they are not prepared to build cloning plants and broadcast engines, even if the blueprints exist.

naens said...

I really think the seals ought to have a role in the ensuing apocalypse. ^_^

Steven L. Kent said...

You do, do you?

Yo-yo said...

I just double checked. Neither "Clone Sedition" nor "Clone Assassin" are listed in the books on this site.
For shame! Letting a website fall behind reality??? That NEVER happens!
Heh.
Time to update both wiki AND your own website!
Heh.

Steven L. Kent said...

I'm pretty lax about posting things on the SadSamsPalace.com. I posted excerpts as the books on this Blog, but I'm not good about updating Sad Sam's. I pretty much leave the Wikipedia entry alone.

Nick Turco said...

Hi Stephen, I just wanted yo say thanks for another excellent book! I've been a fan since the beginning (I was 11 when The Clone Republic came out and I was at Barnes and Noble browsing science fiction when I stumbled upon it. I've been hooked since! (And so is my dad)). A question I have is, do you see yourself ever writing "spinoff" novels centering around Ray Freeman's many adventures as a pan galactic bounty hunter(like before all the Harris stuff)? I would love that, as in some ways, he's easily my favorite character. I really liked the character development of Freeman in this book as for the first time, he actually was mortal and experienced feelings! What's next, a girlfriend?!? Haha I digress. Overall, great work, and can't wait for the next one to come out!

Steven L. Kent said...

Nick, that is a great question.

I used to fantasize about creating a line of graphic novels based on Freeman's early adventure.

Steven L. Kent said...

By the way, Nick, thanks for the kind words.

naens said...

I actually discovered your books the same way. I would love to see Freeman graphically kick ass, by the way.

JenMo said...

Anyone else notice Graphic Audio finally has an iPhone app? I've been listening to Clone Elite, one of my absolute favorites in the series. You know when I read the book, I never associated "ion curtain" with "iron curtain" but the first time I heard it while listening I grinned in appreciation of the word play.

Steven L. Kent said...

I didn't know about Graphic Audio doing an app, which is not surprising as I actually do not own a cell phone.

If you get a chance, try their audio version of Batman: No Man's Land... along with the Clone books, of course!

thenpp said...

Am enjoying 9th (has it really been nine???) book, 40 pages away from the return of Harris and am hating that I have to chew so long to get there! Heh.
Have a comment about #8, though.
I dislike plot holes and at first I thought I had discovered a set of HUGE ones and then I reconsidered.
At the end of #8, in the hospital, it is stated that Harris's only programming was not to kill himself. Granted, the gland that kicks in is NOT part of the programming but as I sat reading this I suddenly stopped: WAIT! There were SEVERAL other programmed aspects to Harris that you had overlooked!
1) He saw himself as blonde and blue eyed -- But then I realized this programming had been deactivated when he was informed he was a clone. So while it may have been a part of the original programming, it was now gone.
2) Loyalty to the U.A., programmed into every clone! But then I thought about it. What if the loyalty to the U.A. wasn't a "programmed" thing but an indoctrination thing? For most clones it could have been part of their wiring, but for Harris, the Orphanages must have included classes that re-enforced, time after time, loyalty to the UA. So Harris's initial loyalty wasn't hardwired, just a matter of how he was brought up.
Which solved #3 as well: The desire to save as many natural-borns as possible. Not hardwired into Harris, just the way he was brought up.
And I read the last two pages and know there HAS TO BE a 10th book!
Can't wait to see news of that AND can't wait to get beyond these 40 pages to get to talk to Harris again.
Regret the length of the message.
Cheers.

Steven L. Kent said...

Thenpp, I appreciate the length of your message, and the questions.

In Republic Harris knows that he is different from the other clones in the orphanage because he is taller than them, even if he does have brown eyes and brown hair. In fact, one of the things that he believes makes him stand out is that while they see themselves as having blond hair and blue eyes, he sees himself as a brown-eye brunette of the male natural-born variety.

Loyalty is indoctrinated, not programmed, in Harris. In fact, the entire clone population would have died at the outset of the EME if it had been neurally programmed instead of indoctrinated.

There is a tenth book. I will submit it to Ace Book some time in March.

Thanks thenpp.

Steven L. Kent

Robert McNaughton said...

I have faithfully (Quietly) been reading the “Harris” series and now, I have to finally voice my thoughts on this adventure before it comes to a close (as you say?!?). Like everyone on this blog, I love a good plot line and I personally get engrossed in the characters as they are brought to life by the writer. I have enjoyed George RR Martin (Well before HBO), Mercedes Lackey and James Mallory, and Ian Douglas to name a few. However, this arc has captured my attention on a personal level. Being an old Marine (Golf Co. 2/3) (86’ – 90’) (Recalled 91’) myself I feel you have captured what being a grunt is like, Wayson in my opinion, exemplifies what it is like to have to face odds not in your favor, send your men into the depths of hell and having to live with the decisions you made, because you survived. I’m hoping the story line doesn’t follow the He finally “gets” to die wondering if he gets to go to heaven or was he soulless as he was always told (Kind of a left to the reader thing). I’m rooting that he lives and goes on to bigger and better things…. Either way Thanks to you Mr. Kent for a great adventure… Semper Fi…
I would also like to mention that your books bring families together, my 2 brothers and I have a standing agreement that if one of us finds a series that we like, we pack the books up and UPS them to the others (usually oldest to youngest – and I’m the youngest by the way). I found the clone series and sent it to them and now they keep asking when I’ll be sending the next book. Personally, I like to hold them hostage so they have to come visit (Oldest, Rick lives is in Colorado – Second, Pat in Arizona – And I in Washington), usually around hunting season.

Steven L. Kent said...

Wow. Robert, thank you. As I am a Seattle-ite myself, I'm curious, where do you live?

The reviews have generally been favorable on the Harris novels, and I am grateful for that.

Steven L. Kent said...

Oh, and don't forget... GO Seahawks!!!

Robert McNaughton said...

We've played in some of the same mud... I have lived in Kennewick for over 21 years... was born and raised in Oregon (Southwest - Roseburg area)...Graduated High School in Orem, UT... and my primary duty station while in the Corps was Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii... And of course Rooting for the Hawks...

Steven L. Kent said...

We have indeed shared many of the same sandboxes--attended school in Utah, lived in Portland, now residing in Washington, and doing a decent impersonation of a Seahawks 12th man, though I confess a certain fondness for the KC Chiefs as well.

Neither team is my favorite team in the NFL. My absolute favorite team in the NFL is any team playing the Stealers.



Robert McNaughton said...

Truth be told my favorite football teams in order of favoritism are... 49ers (Yes I'm in mourning)... Hawks (so I'm no crying to bad - except that they beat my niners)... Broncos (so I can't lose this year) and all team who play the cowboys...

So back to Harrison... If he was to survive to a "Natural" death how long would he live... I don't ever see him being able to settle down... Maybe, if they both live him and Freeman can go off to find more adventures and Speck off to the rest of U.A. & EME... Maybe go looking for the Japanese and SEALS..

Robert McNaughton said...

I mean I know the SEALS aren't Marines but.. But Marines don't leave a brother behind... Just a nagging thought..

Steven L. Kent said...

I certainly don't envision Harris dying of old age.

Robert McNaughton said...

Whatever you have planned for him it will have been one helluva ride... Thanks

Steven L. Kent said...

Robert, my friend, it shall indeed be a very grim roller coaster.

naens said...

I can't wait see what state humanity will be in at the end of this, but everything else is looking awesome so far.

Steven L. Kent said...

We'll see what you think in nine months, naens, but I want Harris to go out with a bang.

A random walk among library shelves led to your books said...

Hi,

thank your for the excellent book series. I found it by chance in the science fiction section of a library in a town I was staying abroad. I picked one of the books somewhere in the middle of the series, and then red all of them in a matter weeks. I'm a huge consumer of books, and I really think that your ability to write kick-ass scifi with deep personalities and drama is absolutely great.

One line of future that came to my mind when the Japanese fleet landed a small population to the destroyed planet - perhaps a book or two at some point about life on that planet? There are fascinating possibilities with the Navy SEALs faving teh 'hard to play god' problem among less capable human population etc. Also, technological deterioration and social cohesion of the group after some time when on a lonely planet with scarce resources.

keep writing the clone series please, it's excellent.

Steven L. Kent said...

Thank you very much.

I had planned to do a series about New Copenhagen in which I cast the aging SEALs as something akin to the Seven Samurai when a U.A. battleship appears in their solar system. m I don't think that project will fly, however.

JenMo said...

A SEALs series is on the top of my spin off wish list. Love those little guys. I just finished listening to Clone Alliance & Elite on graphic audio. I know you say the ABCs are conditioned instead of programmed to be so insecure, but Ilych is a cocky little dude, and is downright snide when dealing with Harris. I love that about him, and the actor voicing him did a great job. I just always got the impression that were it not for their repressive programming, those little trolls would rule the galaxy.

Steven L. Kent said...

The guy playing Illych on the Graphic Audio CDs was half nerd and half psychotic--and all brilliant.

naens said...

Check out this website where it guesses the character you are thinking of, it's strangely addicting. I was able to beat it while thinking of Harris too. http://en.akinator.com/personnages/jeu?reset=1

Steven L. Kent said...

Naens, that site is AMAZING, the absolute enemy of anyone working on deadline!!!!

Addictive, but so much fun!!!

naens said...

It is absolutely incredible at how good it is though... and Harris was in its data banks I think, it just couldn't figure out I was thinking of Harris.

naens said...

Akinator may not have been able to guess Harris, but it got Freeman on the third guess.

Steven L. Kent said...

Akinator learns as it goes along. It learned about Wayson Harris from you. Then I tried a game using Freeman, and it learned about Freeman from me--both times, adding the information to its data base.

Very sharp!

naens said...

This is how we get to NBC's Revolution... but if you don't watch that show, what I just said is potentially a major spoiler. *psht* the first season is on netflix *psht*

Steven L. Kent said...

Clever.

Emerson Sullivan said...

Steven,

I cam across your first book of the clone series a few years back right before I deployed to Iraq. I really liked your style of science fiction but also your ability to write Harris as relatable despite being a clone. I especially enjoyed the concept how the clones in your stories perhaps seemed more connected to humanity than the natural borns. However the most enjoyable scenes is the interaction between the clones and the life that they live in the military. Though not a Marine, I can relate to military life as I have served in the Army since I was 17 for the past 12 years. Every year I look forward to reading about the adventure of Harris and what eventually will become of him. In the mean time though I am working on my own writing and I hope that one day I can pursue writing full time. If you ever get the time please check out my blog. I would very much appreciate any advice you would give.

Emerson Sullivan

Steven L. Kent said...

Thanks, Emerson. I'll have a look right now.

Nick Turco said...

Hey Steven, just a quick question. What part of Harris's liberator DNA/body allowed him to never get drunk/dead from drinking too much? I'm not sure if it was ever covered.

Steven L. Kent said...

Nick, that is a fair question; one for which I don't have a satisfactory answer. I threw that into the mix when I was writing Republic because I thought it made him cool and mach, but I never put much thought into why it would be.

How is that for a true confession.

JenMo said...

Is that in the same vein as why liberators don't age? I always thought that was a particularly cool trait.

Steven L. Kent said...

Very much so. In fact, I was thinking that it is just about time Wayson noticed some white hairs. (Shannon had white hair and a young face.)

naens said...

Does this make Harris technically immortal, or just with a very long natural lifetime assuming he isn't killed in battle?

Steven L. Kent said...

Very, very mortal. As the first Liberators were all killed off through attrition (save 4 who died in their fifties), there is no real way of knowing how log he may go. He be a very young 55-year-old, and then go down hill quickly at 56.

naens said...

At this rate I doubt if we'll ever know.

Steven L. Kent said...

Never know, there could always be Harris: The Next Generation.

naens said...

That actually sounds interesting. But if they resort to nuclear weapons in book 10, it would be a hard pressed generation indeed. They would also boldly go underground as no man had gone before.

Steven L. Kent said...

You will wish the bad guys in this one had only gone nuke.

naens said...

Yikes.

Warsol Ender said...

Okay I get what you mean about the military clones having problems but what about an enclave dedicated to the creation of the development of the broadcast network I mean this is more like rebuilding and reconnecting to other planets also wouldn't the link to avatari be broken also you've stated in your book the clone elite and clone betrayal that the process takes many years or centuries to change the atmosphere to that of Hubble's and the population living on a said planet as long as they didn't fight them they would live but also wouldn't the connection break to the programs running the sleeve and avatari or would they still be running and back to my earlier comment of cloning orphanages was the Seal's one originally used but admiral Huang be still operational or destroyed? I heard that mentioned once but not really again and sure the schematics for the cloning tank maybe intact but what about the company that built it? Wouldn't they have the resources and know how to rebuild them from scratch at a fast rate considering how long ago it was?

Steven L. Kent said...

Warsol, kudos for packing a lot of excellent questions into a really good post.

Okay, so, broadcast technology. I think that given time, the clones could indeed restart the Network, but: A) Their best engineers --Mars and his Corps of Engineers-- went to Terraneau and B) The Clones conquered Earth in 2017. They had a year of peace, then in 2019 the Unified Authority returned and they began retrieving Martians. Apocalypse also tales place in 2019, not leaving enough time to construct a new Network.

Linking to other planets... why bother, they've been fried. They aren't sleeved, they are now uninhabitable--remember, the Avatari came back and friend them in Redemption.

I have thought about Huang's cloning facility, It was small and top secret, so it might have survived the Mogat attacks. There are possibilities there.

Warsol Ender said...

Okay then but in clone sedation why didn't Harris ever use the shield armor or make a platoon wear one I always thought it would have been very useful in that situation since the clones seemed to me at least to have taken a lot of the assets that the U.A had like in some sort of supply bunker or something or was it a personal view that involved pride from Harris and the clones to not use them? And have you ever thought of making this series into a comic book series?

Warsol Ender said...

Okay I also want to ask did the avatari destroy planets that had never been unsleaved or only those retaken from the E.M.E? And if so is the planet designated as little Man from the first three books that used to house Freeman's people of neo Baptists be pretty much untouched? Because if is then sorry if this might be related to the sequel but may it hold some significance later? Also whatever happened to Nobles the pilot? It was never clear if he died or not and if not then he has successfully lived longer then the other more important clones in this series besides Harris

Steven L. Kent said...

I think, and I really do mean think as I have not put a lot of thought into it, that only the retaken planets were destroyed, leaving the other planets available for mining. That said, breaking through the sleeves of those planets would be hard because the clones would not know the location from which the sleeving began.

Nobles is quite alive. Along with Harris, Hauser, and MacAvoy.

Steven L. Kent said...

Again, this is just opinion, but I don't remember Harris ever having access to shielded armor. He captured a great deal of equipment at the end of Redemption, but I've never considered including shielded armor as part of that haul. Also, shielded armor has HUGE drawbacks--you can't carry external weapons and limited battery-life.

naens said...

When the U.A showed New Copenhagen to Harris after it got fried, Harris got offered shielded armor, but he refused at that point because the engineers had discovered the battery life and he had "EME pride"

Steven L. Kent said...

Oh you brilliant readers you! What is an author to do?

Probably thank his lucky stars for having readers of your caliber!

Steven L. Kent said...

Naens, my friend, I won't publish that last comment, but I do want to thank you.

Warsol Ender said...

Well I know there are draw backs but in a closed space area were the shielding could literally block any form of fire and I meant as a form of riot designation while other soldiers sort of fire back and the armament while limited could prove useful in close combat rather but yeah and I'm sure they would even the U.A's surrendered when the fleet took over the skies so the opposing infantry would definitely have to surrender there equipment and I'm just speculating but I would guess the armor though I'm sure it would be very limited because the UA would probably destroy or take any of the remaining unused armor along with the facilities that built that were used to build them again I would only think they would be useful in Sieges rather than anything else and only limited to a single platoon or two at most while a main force wore regular armor and weapons

Warsol Ender said...

Oh and have you ever considered making a comic series based on your clone series?

Steven L. Kent said...

The armor plays a very, very limited role in Apocalypse. but a pretty interesting on.

Steven L. Kent said...

I almost went to Dark Horse to present a line of Freeman Stories graphic novels detailing his life; then I read Watchmen and realized just how brilliant the competition could be.

Warsol Ender said...

Okay thank you for answering my questions

Steven L. Kent said...

Have you read Watchmen? I don't mean seen the movie, I mean actually read it?

Mike Fisher said...

Steven,

I have to say (and I hope it's been said before me) that The General MacAvoy character is PURE. GENIUS. That guy cracks me up about every third page.

Loving the book. Close to finishing it. HAD to comment before it slips my age-addled mind.

Also endlessly happy to have Wayson back!

Awesome job, Sir!

Mike

Steven L. Kent said...

Thank you. I really enjoyed getting to know him, too.